Hal Brooks is currently directing the regional tour of Nilaja Sun's Obie Award Winning No Child..., having directed the show's critically-lauded run at both the Barrow Street Theatre and Epic Theatre. He also directed the acclaimed Off-Broadway hit and Pulitzer Finalist Thom Pain (based on nothing) by Will Eno at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, Soho Theatre in London
, and the DR2 in NYC. Other productions: Lee Blessing's Lonesome Hollow (Contemporary American Theater Festival), "MASTER HAROLD" ...and the boys (Weston Playhouse), Don DeLillo's Valparaiso and Will Eno's The Flu Season (rude mechanicals), Sharr White's Six Years (Humana Festival), Rinne Groff's What Then (Clubbed Thumb), I Am My Own Wife (Weston Playhouse), Intimate Apparel (Southern Rep). Craig Wright's Lady at Asolo, and James Braly's Life in a Marital Institution. Hal is a recipient of the 2007-2009 NEA/TCG Career Development Program for Directors.
Coming up, Brooks will be helming Reverie Productions’ production of Chilean writer Ariel “Death and the Maiden” Dorfman’s Widows, a dark magic-realist dramatization of his own novel. In Widows (which will perform at 59e59), a small village has been occupied by a military force for some time. All adult men in the town have been disappeared. Dead bodies begin washing up on the shores of the river which runs through the town. The women of the town claim the bodies as those of their husbands, brothers, fathers, sons, even though the bodies are so disfigured that they’ve become unrecognizable. This poses a whole host of difficulties for the play's characters-- the women of the town and the military officers tasked with keeping them in line. The original novel had to be reset from Pinochet-era
Chile
to post-WWII Greece
in order to be published in Dorfman’s home country. The dramatic version has no specific country as its setting, and demonstrates Dorfman's penchant for lyrical and intense imagery and language.
Hal
Brooks
and I had a short conversation about the project and about his career via e-mail. Hope you enjoy the results:
IB: It’s quite a journey from Thom Pain to a magic realist epic with a Shakespearean-sized cast. Is there a difference for you when you direct a show on a different scale, or does your job remain pretty much the same?
HB: I always think the job of a director is twofold: honor the intent of the playwright, and tell a good story (or tell a story well) so in that sense the job remains the same. I think in terms of scale, Widows obviously presents huge challenges: a cast of thousands, and budget of hundreds. And Thom Pain presented huge challenges too - how to tell this difficult story full of anguish (and pain) and humor and humanity to an often uncertain audience every night (but isn't that always the case?). Widows will require much more preparation, and I will be on my game logistics-wise and organizationally, but truly there can also be something, dare I say it easier when there is more than one person on stage? There's inherently more dynamism, which makes my job somewhat easier. My god, I am gonna regret writing that.
IB: You’ve been freelancin’ up a storm in recent years, what has doing more work in that direction been like? How do you find the projects you want to do when you don’t originate them?
HB: When I did [Don] Delillo's Valparaiso
a few years back, we had a nice Times review and I got a lot of nice meetings out of it. Tim Sanford advised me to "find my writer". And then I met Will Eno - and I felt I had found my writer. But truly, as much as I would work with Will anywhere, anytime, realistically I need to keep working when I cannot direct his work - so I've modified Tim's advice to "find your writers". I am always on the lookout for new voices - and so I am constantly reading new plays, meeting writers. When I get offered work-for-hire, I've got to find my way in. As for finding work, my agent Val Day does a great job of introducing me to new writers too. But I think there is no real method for finding new projects outside of reading, staying connected to the playwriting community, and continuing to do work that inspires you
IB: What drew you to this specific project?
HB: Judy Bowman, the casting director, recommended Reverie and Colin Young to me. He and I sent a bunch of scripts back and forth - and this one is a play he's been dying to produce. I read it, felt scared, and said, sure.
IB: Widows has had a very very long journey from its initial novelization to its New York
premiere, including at least one draft co-written by Tony Kushner. Are there any further changes being made to the text?
HB: This is not the same text that Kushner was involved with - but comes with Kushner's blessings. This play has gone through several iterations. I believe it started with a dream Ariel had, then a poem, then a novel. This may be more or less the third incarnation of this play. There used to be a narrator in an earlier draft. But this is the version that has been seen around the world of late.
IB: So. Um. You’re White and from the United States
(as far as I know) and, although the play never quite comes out and says it, Widows is very clearly about Chile
and the Mothers of the Disappeared. Did you have any concerns about authenticity going into it? Or any of the other artistic concerns that we talk about when addressing multicultural work?
HB: It is true: I am white. I have no concerns about my being "authentic" or of the world of the play - no more than I did when I directed Nilaja in NO CHILD, or Urbaniak in THOM PAIN. And as for it being about Chile
or the mothers of the disappeared, Ariel has not set this in a specific locale and really wants this to be universalized (if that's a word) - the setting is never clear - and some of the names are obviously South American (Fuentes) while others are perhaps Greek influenced (Kastoria). We are casting multi-ethnically in order to stress the universality of the situation of the play.
IB: How do you enter the worlds of the plays you direct? Are there specific steps you take to immerse yourself in the text? Are those different for each play?
HB: I read the play a lot. I try to find its relevance to my own life - and connection to it. For Valparaiso
, that was an easier step: it seemed to be about celebrity, but actually it was about a man who had lost a sense of self. I had been working at several dotcom jobs during the late 90s and had really lost a sense of who I was - and this was my way back into the world of the theater, and a sense of self. For me, my way into this play is the scene at the end with the grandmother and her grandson. As much as the play is about I try to connect that moment to my own life - and where I'd stand. I get fairly bookish before going into a rehearsal room - so plan to read, watch films, make an image library of it.
Also, I have a nice advantage of being able to talk to a living playwright. I love that.
IB: People might not know this but.. you are also a blogger! How do you use your blog? How do you feel being a blogger fits into your work as a director?
HB: I think you and three other people are the only ones who know I blog. I am told - and I have no way of verifying, that I am one of the few directors who blogs on the process. For me, it's a bit about just keeping a journal. I imagine it is as interesting as watching the proverbial paint dry. I think the one thing about it that fits into my work is it allows me to keep a certain equanimity about the proceedings.
IB: You wrote on your blog recently about the EPAs for the production. Do you find EPAs useful at all? Are they a system that you’d do away with in an ideal world? And if so? how do we find the good unknown artist?
HB: I think I wrote that I had horrific dreams after the EPAs. There was this one guy who just really seemed like a vicious cannibal - and he directed this wholly inappropriate monologue to our female producer. And it was disgusting.
It makes you really depressed and after seven windowless hours, it was just exhausting.
We did bring in three or four people into our regular auditions - out of 150 or so...so...that's like two plus percent? Is that good?
We have a few really tough roles to cast (the grandson and the grandmom) and I really thought we'd found our grandson out of the proceedings. But she (that's right, she) was not up for the prospect of playing a boy - which I think happens to her a lot... which I know was a bummer for me.
EPAs are hard for everyone, and you just want to say to tell the folks to bring in better choices. I kept thinking to myself "Do they really think I want to hear this?" A poem about World War One? Someone screaming at the top of their lungs? Over-the-top misogyny?
On the other hand, it really is a chance for someone to get noticed, who might otherwise not get noticed since they have no representation yet.
IB: You’ve worked on a broad range of material, including lots of new work and revivals. What is the difference for you between the two? How does working with the writer in the room compare to working off an already-published script like Master Harold?and the Boys?
HB: The only difference to me seems to be that you've got to make certain choices and assumptions as if the playwright were in the room with you. The main challenge of working with the writer in the room is finding a way to run the room, while knowing that the guy/gal who wrote the play might have the answers - but that you might be the best person for a variety of reasons to answer the questions. I think actors sometimes want to get the answer from the playwright - because he's/she's there. But often times a playwright, having written their work, tapping into their unconscious might not have the actable answer...or they might. It depends. I love it when a writer doesn't know the answer. It makes the whole room freer, I think..
I always want to make the play "actable" for the actor, so even though you might know why a playwright has done a specific thing in the script - you have to convey that to an actor usually from the viewpoint of their character, rather than from a more dramaturgical standpoint.
IB: Do you think of yourself as having an aesthetic? If so, how would you define it?
HB: My aesthetic is changing. If you'd have asked around the time of Thom Pain, I'd have said. I really like the existential, abstract landscape stripped-down language plays. You know those: Beckett, Albee, Eno, Delillo -that school. But since Six Years at Humana (a well-made play) and No Child, I can definitely feel my aesthetic changing, my skills stretching: the uproarious standing o's that Nilaja received made me realize how acceptable the feel-good play can be, especially when it's magically portrayed by one dynamo.
IB: What made you choose directing? Did you come from a different theatrical perspective originally?
HB: When I was an undergrad actor at Yale (and a theater double major with history, at least at first) - friends told me I should direct. But I had no idea how. Or what. And then again at grad school, I was told I was a "smart" actor - which I think was a backhanded compliment. Still, I had no idea how to direct. But then at ACT (where I trained as an Actor), I had a genius acting teacher/director: Jack Fletcher. Jack is the son of one of ACT founders (Allen Fletcher) and just has a way of connecting actors to material in a way that makes sense, that honors the writer and the actor, and felt like what we were doing was the most important thing - crucial matters of life, death, and empathy. One of the main principles at ACT, which is obvious and simple and a revelation, was that the most important person onstage is your scene partner. Applying that to the basic 10 questions (given circumstances, obstacles, actions, objectives, etc) was the epiphany I was looking for. I finally felt like I knew how to run a room, to talk to actors the way I'd wanted to be talked to as an actor.
Then I read Delillo's Day Room and was ready to go. It remains the greatest directing experience in my career - the first: a bunch of classmates, in a studio, throwing something up on a weekend...
IB: What are you looking forward to most with this production of Widows?
HB: I cannot wait for tech - to see how the darn river will look. Also, we are reconfiguring the space, THEATER B at 59 E. 59th as an alley - so that'll be cool to see.
IB: Any pearls of wisdom you’d like to share with the next group of up-and-comers?
HB: Find your writer(s). Hang in there.
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