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Terry Teachout

It's funny that you should frame the critical differences of opinion in this manner. I don't really see the show--or my review--as driven by ideology. My biggest problem with "The Book of Mormon," as I think I made clear in what I wrote, is that I think the show is predictable and that its craft is amateurish. I have no problem whatsoever with the fact that it's "blasphemous," much less that it is full of "obscene" language. (You should see the play I just wrote!) I just don't think it does these things in an especially fresh or interesting manner.

As for the matter of whether or not the creators were in any way courageous to go after Mormons, or "conservative" religious belief in general, I think the rapturous critical response to the show makes it surpassingly clear just how safe "The Book of Mormon" really is.

Terry Teachout

By the way, John Simon is not in any way politically conservative.

Josh

John Simon is in no way politically conservative? The John Simon who said, "Another problem is men kissing each other and even indulging in violent anal intercourse." That guy is in no way conservative?

The quote is found here: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFDd3lf9uCE8

Terry Teachout

I'm not talking about his sexual politics, which are the product of an earlier time (remember that he was born in 1925). Simon is and has always been an unabashed political liberal.

Pete

If Matthew Murray is a political conservative I don't see how that informs his review as he seems to be a big fan of Parker and Stone.

Josh

So "not in any way politically conservative" does not include sexual politics. Squares aren't rectangles. Got it.

Jack Worthing

Strike me down for defending Simon but I think his point might be that the play in question employs shock tactics at the expense of character, like much of the exploitative rubbish the Court did in the 90s. (ie Bond does not stone the baby just to show it can be done; he stones the baby because the play can't be done without it.)

Jack Worthing

I'm going on the context there. But he phrased it horribly. That review is full of half-baked ideas and needs a good editor.

Jeremy M. Barker

While I agree Sullivan is sort of all over the place, I actually do think that South Park is fairly libertarian minded conservative.

moxie the maven

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and I didn't find a lot to love in Book of Mormon. I really wanted to love it, but Terry's review hit the nail on the head.

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