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November 23, 2004

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Lee the Sister

check it:

http://mcsweeneys.net/links/lists/15MatthewSimmons.html

"this Bible you sold me is clearly defective, and I'd like to return it, please."

Marley

It's not there. Actual holy people are kind, serene, generous, loving, wise. Basically the exact opposite of the Falwell and Robertson crowd.

Rob

And yet Jesus does wish harm on his enemies, saying for a man who causes others to sin – β€œIt would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” (Matthew 18:6)

He commits violence toward his enemies by turning over the tables of the money-changers and driving them out of the temple. In John he uses a whip, and this is the same Gospel where he claims to be free of sin, implying it is not a sin to whip your enemies.

He insults his enemies. When he condemns religious leaders in the six woes of Luke and is stopped by a law expert who is insulted, Jesus responds with even harsher criticism of the man, no doubt insulting him even more.

He wishes harm upon his followers, urging them to teach his word, while at the same time saying they will be condemned tortured and killed for doing so. Overall, worldly suffering, as a means of preventing eternal suffering in hell, seems to be a tool he views as necessary to employ.

Marley

If a cop stops you for speeding and gives you a warning instead of a ticket, do you slow down?

If you catch your dog pooping in the living room, do you emphatically and immediately send him outside?

If your neighbor spreads gossip about you, will you confront him?

If you laid your life down for someone, do you hope they would be forever changed by your actions?

Does Jesus view suffering as a tool to employ? I don't think so. Suffering was here on earth before Jesus, and suffering has continued unabated since he left. Jesus did not invent or bring suffering to earth. I think Jesus teaches us how to deal with suffering as a part of life, and he tells us how to avoid eternal suffering.

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