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June 27, 2008


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I'm already voting for a third party candidate. If I had to pick between the two major parties, I'd go with Obama. But as it stands, I don't think either the Republicans or the Democrats are heading in the right direction, nor do I trust them to do what's best for the country.

It's past time a third party came into power, and it's past time that the American people were given more options over their futures. Everyone always says things are never black and white, but apparently, politics never got the message. Let's get a shade of gray in there somewhere.


Actually, this is th eonly year in which third party candidates don't even cross my mind.

Karl Miller

I wish there were more third party candidates in Congress, not the White House.

If a smattering of Green Party peeps could work on the legislature, they might have the traction necessary to bring someone else into the executive branch. I think that's a more realistic start, local congressional races.

But maybe that's just more of the same pragmatic horseshit that keeps lesser-evilism a dominant "frame" for American political discourse. I don't know.

Obama is 0-3 in my book right now. He's had so many chances to take the high road symbolically (flag pin), financially (campaign finance), legislatively (wiretapping), and honestly (all of the above as cowardly reversals). One more and I'm off to Nader, I fear.

Christopher Shinn

It appears you have your "one more" today, Karl, if the AP can be believed: Obama is going to embrace and extend Bush's faith-based initiatives, "steering federal social service dollars to religious groups and — in a move sure to cause controversy — support their ability to hire and fire based on faith."

This after throwing moveon.org under the bus yesterday for their "Betray us" ad (after skipping the Senate vote to condemn moveon.org earlier this year), and also attacking '60s activism for being anti-American (never mind that it hastened the end of the Vietnam war and ushered in the beginning of the social change which enabled Barack Obama to get where he is today).

Christopher Shinn

According to the Obama campaign, the AP got the element about hiring and firing based on faith wrong: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/01/1177379.aspx

The fact remains, if you read the speech, Obama is trying to have his cake and eat it too: give federal money to religious groups if they promise not to use it proselytize. This of course is absurd since most religions see it as their God given duty to do just that.

adam szymkowicz

If I knew Obama would win where I live, I would vote 3rd party just to protest against the two party system. That's why my first vote was for Perot. Not because I wanted him as the president.

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