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January 08, 2010


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Uke Jackson

I have to say, Isaac, that with all the attention this book/study is getting, I already made up my mind to skip reading it. It won't help my writing, it won't help my mental attitude. A re-read of Lajos Egri is sure to be more beneficial.

Paul Rekk

I'm in a similar state of mind as Uke -- every response I've to the book, negative or positive, reflects on facts that were already pretty evident. Am I going to get something out of this book that I don't already know or is it just a way for playwrights and other artists to say "See, we told you this was a problem!" to a system that still doesn't care that it's a problem?

'Cause if it's the latter, I can't say I'm terribly interested.


Paul and Uke, I don't think there was any one thing that was particularly revelatory in OF or shocking, but, taken all together, what it does very effectively is move a lot of those things out of bar chatter and insider innuendo into the light so we can decide what the next steps are. At least that's how I take it. Not reading it is a completely valid option, though. It's pretty depressing.

Jack Worthing

Can we dispense with the 'aging white guy' thing, please? Lynne Meadow, arguably the most powerful non-profit producer in New York, is the whitest, aging-est guy I know. I fear Martha Lavey is following in her footsteps. I don't mean to hijack the thread, I'm just saying, please, be more specific.



That was actually very specifically about the second half of Chris Jones' article. I should've quoted that to make it clearer.

I should also mention that Chris Jones claims that not enough time is spent talking about the difference between good and bad plays. I guess he missed the section called "plays of quality and merit". I can understand, being that it's in Chapter one and all, it might've been too far in for him to read.

And that's not the only part where the Quality Question comes up. In fact, it comes up constantly.

Jack Worthing

Fair point. Thank you.

Uke Jackson

Jack, you're far too earnest.

Jack Worthing

I could deny it if I liked. I could deny anything if I liked.


Thank you for focusing on the "they hate the audience" point. I am an audience member, not a theatre professional, and this is something that I have felt. I subscribed to "AmericanTheatre" for a couple of years, and thought I saw a lot of audience-hatred (and condescension) in its pages. And I see it in this blog, in snide comments about older people ("blue hairs"). I get that older people (including me) may not be the target audience for many, even most, participants in this blog. And that's OK. But I don't see the need to insult your non-audience (or the utility of doing so).


Damn you Issac, you stole my thunder again. I expand on the audience hate idea here


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